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[SydneySider]

FIVE...yes FIVE...NSW Labor Government ministers have now been dragged into the Wollongong Council corruption scandal.

So I ask...where are the people that voted in this incompetant, and now corrupt, government?

This governement has stuffed our state, they can't deliver adequate public transport (millenium trains that break down, a new t-card system that is years overdue and then dumped completely, public transport that continues to be inadequate for a world city), public hospitals in crisis - what about this hospital they just completed at Bathurst that can't be opened because of leaing sewage, hospital operating theatres that are too small/not up to doctor standards, and corridors that are so small patients can't even be transferred between wings. And this was a brand NEW hospital that looks like it will have to be knocked down completely. What an absolute joke.

I had to laugh last night, I was listening to the radio and three news items followed each other - Bathurst hospital crisis, Government corruption scancal, and former Labor MP Milton Orkopolous's drug/sex trial - all followed each other on the news, all to do with the NSW Labor Government.

Where are the people that voted this incompetant and corrupt government in? It's not like the public didn't know how incompetent this bunch were before the election, so where are you and how can you justify now voting for these people?

THE NSW Labor Party has gone into damage control over sensational allegations of bribery and corruption within Wollongong City Council, suspending five party members implicated in the scandal.

Three ministers have been dragged into the widening furore, with the Government of Premier Morris Iemma reeling from claims of jobs for mates and a trail of political donations from allegedly corrupt developers, The Australian reported.

Labor-controlled Wollongong Council was yesterday left to swing in the breeze by the state Government, with Local Government Minister Paul Lynch refusing to take calls from council general manager David Farmer.

The allegations have emerged from explosive evidence at an Independent Commission Against Corruption hearing, where it was alleged a town planner, Beth Morgan, was involved in sexual relationships with three developers - and received cash and gifts from two of them - while she was approving their property developments worth a combined $135million.

Ms Morgan, a 32-year-old divorcee and mother of one, regularly attended morning meetings with the three developers, Glen Tabak, Michael Kollaras and Frank Vellar, at a Wollongong kebab shop in a group called "the table of knowledge", an informal meeting of business and council heavyweights.

Mr Tabak and Mr Kollaras maintained their usual practice of a 6.30am coffee at the shop yesterday, just hours before they gave evidence at the ICAC inquiry.

Members of their group told The Australian yesterday "the table of knowledge doesn't really exist" but Mr Kollaras later told the inquiry he started the "table of knowledge" about 10 years ago.

In the witness box, Mr Kollaras denied having an affair with Ms Morgan but was presented with a series of highly personal emails between them.

In one, she called Mr Kollaras "my favourite, sexy, delectable, gorgeous Greek".

He explained the emails by saying she was an "extremely close friend".

In his evidence, Mr Tabak told the inquiry Ms Morgan was possibly "on a mission for sex" and believed she "wanted to be surrounded by successful people" by liaising with developers.

The political dimension of the scandal widened when it emerged that two conmen, posing as corruption investigators, allegedly extorted a $30,000 payment from Labor powerbroker and council staff member Joe Scimone in exchange for offering to destroy evidence against him.

Mr Scimone left the council in February last year after sexual harassment claims and went on to receive a $200,000 a year position with NSW Maritime, a department controlled by his friend Joe Tripodi, the Ports Minister.

Mr Scimone, who denies he quit because of the claims, was among those suspended from the ALP yesterday.

Three more ALP members bounced from the party are Wollongong Labor councillors accused of soliciting bribes from developers in exchange for planning approvals: Frank Gigliotti, Zeki Esen and deputy lord mayor Kiril Jonovski. The fifth suspension is Labor councillor Val Zanotto, who is accused of paying the same conmen $120,000 to pervert the course of justice.

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NSW Opposition Leader Barry O'Farrell yesterday renewed his call for Mr Iemma to allow ICAC to investigate Mr Tripodi, labelling him the "tar baby" of the NSW Labor Government.

"We have a Premier who reacts to the appointment of a Labor mate to a $200,000-a-year job in government by setting up an in-house inquiry and ignoring the state's anti-corruption watchdog," Mr O'Farrell said.

Mr Tripodi denied helping Mr Scimone get the NSW Maritime job and said he did not know he was a person of interest to ICAC until this week.

Mr Iemma said he had asked ICAC if the recruitment process at NSW Maritime warranted an external inquiry.

There were further signs of trouble for Mr Iemma last night when John Sutton, national secretary of the construction division of the Construction Forestry Mining and Energy Union, said it was time for Mr Iemma to stand aside for Deputy Premier John Watkins.

Adding to his problems, there is speculation that high-profile Environment Minister Phil Koperberg, who recently returned to work after being cleared of domestic violence allegations, will today announce his retirment from cabinet, citing ill health.

The pressure being felt in government circles was also evident when NSW Housing Minister Matt Brown cut short a press conference after reporters quizzed him on political donations he received from a company associated with developer Glen Tabak.

Mr Tabak allegedly began a sexual relationship with Ms Morgan and showered her with gifts to receive favourable treatment of applications.

Police Minister David Campbell was also friendly with Mr Scimone, who helped with his election campaign. And Sydney's The Daily Telegraph reports today that Health Minister Reba Meagher and her predecessor John Hatzistergos are also being questioned about their knowledge of Mr Scimone's appointment to a health department committee in 2005.

At the ICAC hearing yesterday, Mr Tabak said he was a friend of Mr Scimone and had sold him a unit in one of his developments. He said Mr Scimone told him he paid $30,000 to two men who said theycould help him with the ICAC investigation.

Independent Wollongong councillor David Martin yesterday successfully moved for an emergency council meeting on Monday to ask the four Labor councillors to stand aside.

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[Big Dan]

So I ask...where are the people that voted in this incompetant, and now corrupt, government?

Not in my house! I voted for George Souris (Nationals)...

[Mark]

I easily justify voting for them... why the hell would anyone vote for an idiot like Peter Debnam who couldn't find his own toes let alone count them.

The NSW Labor Party was a case of "Better the devil you know."

By the way, Iemma is a dead-duck - too nice to be a Premier. Put John Watkins in NOW!

[Blue Mountains]

I voted for Iemma (more specifically Karyn Paluzzano) and the Greens, i based my decision on the "lessor of two evils", quite frankly i saw Peter Debnam as cold, far too right-wing extreme and unlikeable. His conduct when accusing Bob Debus of being under investigation under the Police Integrity Commission was disgraceful and the allegations were immediatly dismissed as groundless and he was censured for misleading parliament.

Personally i prefer John Watkins as Premier, he's more likable, was was a decent education minister during 2001-03 and can certainly do a better job then Iemma is doing.

[SydneySider]

I easily justify voting for them... why the hell would anyone vote for an idiot like Peter Debnam who couldn't find his own toes let alone count them.

So you voted Labor in because Debnam was someone who couldn't find his own toes?
What a generalised, stupid statement that doesn't really make much sense...no examples or anything to back up what you're saying.
You're saying that you would prefer a corrupt, incompetent government over an opposition because their leader 'couldn't find his own toes' (whatever that even means in relation to him)

I voted for Iemma (more specifically Karyn Paluzzano) and the Greens, i based my decision on the "lessor of two evils", quite frankly i saw Peter Debnam as cold, far too right-wing extreme and unlikeable.

Again...the lesser of two evils...how? What was wrong with the opposition when you compare them to a corrupt and incompetent government. Saying their leader was too cold or extreme doesn't really cut it.

And to those who say they didn't know the government was corrupt at the time of voting, there are plenty of other things that happened to point to this before the election (Joe Tripodi has had similar things brought up in the past to show he's been corrupt)

[SydneySider]

Focus on Scimone's $30,000 woes

THE former Wollongong council officer and ALP powerbroker Joe Scimone was fooled into believing his "problems" at Wollongong council could be made to disappear if he paid $30,000 to two men claiming to be corrupt Independent Commission Against Corruption officials, a public inquiry was told yesterday.

Exactly what those problems were was a subject for interrogation yesterday at the commission inquiry into alleged corrupt behaviour at the council, with questions being asked about Mr Scimone's role assessing development applications, and bribes he allegedly paid to pervert the inquiry.

The commission yesterday issued a warrant for the arrest of one of the men, Ray Younan, a criminal alleged to have solicited bribes from Mr Scimone and others named in the inquiry. Younan is believed to be in Lebanon with health problems.

#The hearing, which began on Monday, also heard more about how the imposters tried to bribe Wollongong council staff and local developers in what increasingly looks like an unsophisticated sting involving cloak-and-dagger meetings and mysterious phone calls.

Allegations of more inappropriate sexual relations between a former council town planner, Beth Morgan - portrayed in evidence as having been on a possible "mission for sex" - and developers were also aired, some of them detailed in emails between various people mentioned in the hearings.

Mr Scimone - a close ally of the Minister for Ports and Waterways, Joe Tripodi, and a friend for 30 years of the former Wollongong lord mayor and present Police Minister, David Campbell - stood down from his job with NSW Maritime on Wednesday pending the outcome of the inquiry.

The commission has said Mr Scimone's conduct at the council requires scrutiny in respect of his relationships with developers, particularly his friend Glen Tabak, from whom he bought a unit in a development approved by council, and his "apparent payment of cash intended to pervert the course of this investigation" to the convicted criminals and imposters Younan and Gerald Carroll.

Mr Tabak said Mr Scimone had been under great stress because he had lost his job at the council, could not get another one, and had been accused of sexually harassing a female colleague at the council.

Mr Tabak yesterday told the commission Younan had demanded another $20,000 on top of $30,000 Mr Scimone had already paid "because he didn't want any more hassles in his life".

"He said that after going through all the things that he had gone through in the last 12 months, that was, his job in council and … [not being] able to get another job and all the stress and he was crying … and he said he was scared," Mr Tabak said.

"Sorry, he told you that he'd pay the money rather than go through what?" asked the commissioner, Jerrold Cripps, QC. "Was he saying that Ray Younan could ensure that he would have no more hassles?" "I don't know," Mr Tabak replied.

Counsel assisting the commission, Noel Hemmings, QC, had earlier quizzed Mr Tabak on his friendship with the council staff member and whether that had affected the way Mr Scimone assessed Mr Tabak's development applications.

Mr Tabak said he was surprised when Ms Morgan began to appear at "Table of Knowledge" meetings at a Northbeach kebab shop that involved developers, businessmen and council executives.

He said he believed Ms Morgan "wanted to be surrounded by successful people". "It is possible she was on a mission for sex," he said.

Mr Tabak said he did not know if his friend thought paying the bribe would solve problems that may have been related to the way he carried out his council work.

Mr Tabak also met Younan when Ms Morgan invited him to an isolated cafe in Appin. She had agreed to pay the two men $50,000 but refused to have sex with Carroll as payment to have her ICAC file cleaned, the commission has heard.

Mr Tabak was not so easily taken in. "He didn't look like an ICAC officer to me," he said of the heavyset 55-year-old who favours white shirts and gold chains.

Mr Tabak and Mr Scimone told the bribery story to another local developer, Michael Kollaras, who yesterday claimed he made Mr Scimone ring the commission and reveal the whole thing.

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Government implodes as minister jumps ship

THE Iemma Government was in full blown crisis last night as the Environment Minister, Phil Koperberg, prepared to quit the cabinet and the future of the Ports Minister, Joe Tripodi, was under a giant cloud as a result of the Wollongong sex-for-development scandal.

The Premier was set to announce Mr Koperberg's retirement from cabinet this morning, senior sources confirmed. Domestic violence allegations against the minister have resurfaced recently, and he has since been ill.

His departure means an opportunity for a cabinet reshuffle, which could allow the Premier to demote the Health Minister, Reba Meagher, and the Community Services Minister, Kevin Greene. But Morris Iemma is close friends with Ms Meagher, and Mr Greene has previously indicated he does not want to move.

Mr Tripodi's future also appeared uncertain last night after he was locked in crisis talks with the right-wing Labor powerbroker Eddie Obeid and the Treasurer, Michael Costa, over the controversy involving his department, NSW Maritime, granting a $200,000-a-year job in December to his friend, the Labor official Joe Scimone.

Mr Scimone, a former Wollongong council officer, was forced to stand down from his job on Wednesday pending the findings of the Independent Commission Against Corruption hearing into Wollongong Council.

Three Wollongong Labor councillors stood aside yesterday after being named at the commission's hearings.

Mr Iemma appeared to cast doubt over Mr Tripodi's future yesterday, warning that anyone found to have acted improperly would be "out".

He also revealed that on Wednesday he had asked his director-general, Robyn Kruk, to refer to the commission Mr Tripodi's department's appointment of Mr Scimone. The commission is expected to decide next week whether there should be an investigation into Mr Tripodi.

"Anyone who is found to have done the wrong thing - out. No matter who they are," Mr Iemma said. "There are no bones about this whatsoever."

The national secretary of the Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union, John Sutton, weighed into the crisis affecting the Government during a national conference of the union, which was attended by the Deputy Premier, John Watkins. Mr Sutton declared that Mr Watkins should replace Mr Iemma.

"I speak for everyone in this room [when I say] I would hope the day John Watkins becomes premier isn't that far away, and the day can't come too soon," Mr Sutton said. Mr Watkins, seated behind Mr Sutton, could not suppress a grin when the union secretary delivered his words. Later, when asked where Mr Iemma was, Mr Watkins said he did not know and directed inquiries to Mr Iemma's office.

A source close to Mr Koperberg said although he would cite health reasons for quitting, he had had enough of a war he has fought behind the scenes against the Blacktown MP, Paul Gibson.

He believed Mr Gibson was spreading allegations against him. He would remain on the backbench as member for the Blue Mountains "to show he's not concerned about these allegations".

"It's [his quitting the cabinet is] really a vote of no confidence in Iemma not dealing with Gibson," a source close to Mr Koperberg said.

The source claimed that Mr Gibson had been continuing to press allegations against Mr Koperberg even after police had found no evidence against him.

The Premier's office declined to comment on the former rural fire chief's future last night. Mr Koperberg did not return calls.

Mr Koperberg's retirement from cabinet is expected to spark recriminations over why he was recruited to run for Parliament last March. His recruitment sparked a feud between him and Mr Gibson, who had had a relationship with Mr Koperberg's former wife.

Mr Koperberg's departure follows rumours that Mr Iemma approached former minister Carmel Tebbutt, who is in the Hard Left faction, to see if she would be interested in re-entering the ministry.

Mr Iemma and Ms Tebbutt have denied such conversations took place. Ms Tebbutt insists she is happy to remain on the back bench and continue as a mother now her husband, Anthony Albanese, is a minister in the Federal Government.

Earlier yesterday, Mr Scimone, who is head of Labor's credentials committee, and four Wollongong councillors named in the corruption hearings, deputy mayor Kiril Jonovski, Zeki Esen, Frank Gigliotti and Val Zanotto, were suspended from the Labor Party pending the outcome of the commission's inquiry.

Cr Jonovski, Cr Esen and Cr Gigliotti have also stood aside from their council duties.

Their decision to stand aside swings the balance of power at the council to the independents. Mr Tripodi continued to defend himself against the allegations involving the hiring of Mr Scimone yesterday but would not detail the number of meetings he had with him before he was hired. He continued to insist that he had no role in Mr Scimone being hired.

"As I have repeatedly said, I have known Mr Scimone for many years through politics but do not keep records of my social discussions," Mr Tripodi said.

"The matter has been referred to ICAC and I welcome the investigation to clear up the allegations once and for all.

Mr Iemma confirmed again he had "known Mr Scimone for quite some time".

"He's a Labor figure and an employee of Wollongong Council and I have visited Wollongong council in my official capacity many times. Yes, I know him, as many people do."

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Five sex claims surface against ALP heavyweight

AS MANY as five women who have worked at various times at Wollongong City Council have raised allegations of harassment and intimidation by the ALP heavyweight Joe Scimone.

The complaints emerged after the Herald revealed one such case yesterday.

The Herald understands that one woman who made a serious allegation against Mr Scimone - whose connections with powerful Labor figures are well established - was subsequently employed by the NSW public service.

Her husband was also appointed to an important position in the office of a senior minister.

The incidents that allegedly occurred since 2002 reveal a pattern of behaviour where Mr Scimone ensured there were ramifications for women who spurned his approaches.

Tanya Rajaratnum has detailed her complaint against Mr Scimone in a 2006 statement obtained by the Herald.

In 2005, as a junior customer service officer, the statement says, she was repeatedly approached and touched by Mr Scimone.

After she relented to his incessant requests for a dinner date, Mr Scimone shocked her by demanding details of her sex life. "Do you experiment or do you have a threesome or anything like that?" the document alleges he said.

She had replied that the question upset her because "I had been sexually assaulted when I was younger and I found his question very intrusive and unpleasant".

Mr Scimone allegedly responded: "Yes, but there is a big difference between consensual sex and being assaulted. I like to have a threesome. You'd be safe in that sort of set-up because everyone's in it together."

By the end of that night, after insisting that she continue to drink, Mr Scimone allegedly grabbed at Ms Rajaratnum beside his car. "Before I could get into the car he grabbed me, kissed me, stuck his tongue into my mouth and groped me over my clothes touching my breasts," she said.

"I was shocked and very uncomfortable about this because he was at least twice my age, was my boss and I had told him that I had a boyfriend and had been sexually assaulted."

In Ms Rajaratnum's statement, Mr Scimone is said to have offered $1000 to both Ms Rajaratnum and another colleague to stay with him in a hotel room in Sydney.

The documents also tells of a trip to Sydney in 2005 by Ms Rajaratnum and Vicki Curran for a council conference. Mr Scimone allegedly approved the trip on condition that one of the two women sleep in his room.

"I'm looking forward to what we're going to get up to when we're up there at the conference," he allegedly said to them. "Who's going to be sharing my room?"

After they moved to rooms further from his and resisted his advances, Mr Scimone was said to have "cracked down" on the women. In particular, Ms Rajaratnum reported that he "victimised Vicki Curran".

The Herald published details yesterday of a complaint made by Ms Curran after an alleged sexual assault by Mr Scimone after a staff Christmas party in 2005.

Mr Scimone contacted the Herald last night to give a statement about the incident involving Ms Curran. He refused to discuss the other complaints. "There was a complaint lodged and the matter was settled and mediated in February 2007," he said. "The terms of that agreement preclude me from making any further comment."

Ms Rajaratnum could not be contacted by the Herald.

Tapes played at the commission hearings on Wednesday reveal a developer, Frank Vellar, and a Wollongong businessman, Harry Sissanes, talking in 2006 about the assaults Mr Scimone is alleged to have made.

Vellar: "I rang you up just to let you know f---in', f---ing another girl's come out of the woodwork with Scimone."

http://www.smh.com.a...3467286136.html

[Mark]

So you voted Labor in because Debnam was someone who couldn't find his own toes?
What a generalised, stupid statement that doesn't really make much sense...no examples or anything to back up what you're saying.
You're saying that you would prefer a corrupt, incompetent government over an opposition because their leader 'couldn't find his own toes' (whatever that even means in relation to him)

I would have voted for a road-kill possum over Debnam... what an idiot he was. At least with Fatty O'Barrel, NSW Libs have someone with a bit of common sense, dignity and decency.

BTW - generalised, stupid statement - nope, just the truth.

Yes NSW Labor are full of complete and utter twits, but compared to the fools Debnam and before him Brogden, easy to see why Labor had another 4 years.

[Cyril Washbrook]

Peter Debnam was an absolutely incompetent leader. I'm not a NSW resident, but from here, I can definitely see the immense problems that the Labor Government has caused in NSW. But at your last election, Debnam's leadership was an absolute joke, his campaign was an absolute mess and he demonstrated an inability to unify his own party. SydneySider, the last election wasn't the clearcut choice that you make out, at least not in favour of the Libs: it was a Morton's fork scenario between the devil and the deep blue sea. Quite honestly, the Opposition was drowning in the latter. The question is not "how could you let the Labor Government stuff up the state?", it's "how could the Opposition be so much more incompetent than the Labor Government who are stuffing up the state?"

[SydneySider]

I would have voted for a road-kill possum over Debnam...

Anyone with common sense could have seen that voting for a road-kill possum would have been better than voting for NSW Labor.

[Mark]

Anyone with common sense could have seen that voting for a road-kill possum would have been better than voting for NSW Labor.

so no-one in NSW has common sense then do they? It's a sad indictment on the NSW Libs that even now I'd doubt they'd be voted in if an election was held this weekend. They stand for nothing to be truthful.

[Blue Mountains]

Labor was returned at the 2007 election with their substantial majority almost intact, they only lost 3 seats and in fact gained a seat in the Legislative Council, and again the general viewpoint was the lessor of two evils, especially when Debnam said that the Liberals would probably loose the election only days before the election was held, that make him look pretty un-confident.

[PZ.]

Debman didn't have a chance, not really all his fault though, he had no party to back him up & he did make some policy errors prior to the election.

At the end of the day, the NSW Labor party used a successful scare campaign to defeat Debnams party - successful because
of the many TV & radio ads suggesting tha if Debnam did get in, he would've been John Howards' puppet, and
subsequently hand over all the state awards to Canberra therefore exposing the entire state to the federal I/R laws....

This is why we need a healthy opposition, without it, the imcumbent govt are not really under scrutiny at all.
Corruption has been a big part of the NSW govt (both sides) for more than 30 years. And I'm sure it's the same in other states too.

[Super Simpsons]

Don't worry, Labor will be out in 2011, although that's 3 years too far away.

[PZ.]

Sometimes I think it would've been nice if "Chicka" had got in a few years ago. Didn't mind "Chicka".

[Blue Mountains]

ah yes Kerry Chikarovski, i remember the 1999 campaign about her wanting to gaol street vandals

[PZ.]

Anyone with common sense would know not to listen to those on the far right dude, Andrew bolt et al...

[SydneySider]

Joe Tripodi faces axe over Scimone job scandal

JOE Tripodi will be dumped from Cabinet next week if ICAC finds he has a case to answer over the appointment of allegedly corrupt Labor party official Joe Scimone to a $200,000-a-year departmental job.

The extraordinary threat delivered yesterday by Premier Morris Iemma, a close friend of Mr Tripodi's, came with a warning to three other ministers that they would also be sacked if found to have been involved improperly with people named in the Wollongong sex scandal.

Health Minister Reba Meagher, Police Minister David Campbell and Tourism Minister Matt Brown have all been put on notice that they would be investigated over any allegations made against them.

As his ministry became further embroiled in the scandal, the Premier was forced to sideline his director-general Robyn Kruk from investigating Mr Scimone's appointment to NSW Maritime four week ago.

The Daily Telegraph revealed yesterday that Ms Kruk had appointed Mr Scimone to a health department board when she was director general of health in 2005.

"We await the advice of the ICAC, if there is a matter to investigate ... if an investigation is triggered Mr Tripodi will be standing down," Mr Iemma said.

"If, at the conclusion of any review there is adverse findings against Mr Tripodi ... he will be sacked.

"In relation to Ministers Brown, Campbell and Meagher, it appears the thing put against them is that they knew Mr Scimone.

"If there is an allegation of wrongdoing against those ministers they will be investigated and action will be taken."

In what Mr Iemma described as one of his worst days in Government, compounded by the resignation of his Environment Minister Phil Koperberg for health reasons, he also requested Labor Party secretary Karl Bitar hand back any money received from developers associated with the corruption scandal -- which amounts to about $30,000 -- or donate it to charity.

Following The Daily Telegraph's exposure of the Government's links to the Wollongong Council corruption hearings, the Premier has vowed to introduce legislation to change the laws relating to political donations, with a view to restricting developer contributions.

"Change will happen and needs to happen in regard to political donations," Mr Iemma said.

Mr Scimone and a string of Labor Wollongong councillors, now all suspended from the ALP, have been named at ICAC for a range of corruption allegations including paying bribes to conmen posing as ICAC officials offering to destroy evidence.

It was also revealed that a company linked to a developer at the centre of the ICAC inquiry had donated money to Mr Campbell and Mr Brown's election campaigns last year.

The horror day for Mr Iemma came on top of further questions being raised about Mr Tripodi and an appointment of a former Labor staffer Patrick Low to a newly created job in his department in 2006.

Mr Iemma's office confirmed that the job had been advertised and Mr Lowe was chosen through the selection process.

Mr Tripodi yesterday issued a statement claiming he had done nothing wrong in relation to Mr Scimone's appointment.

Despite his strong rhetoric, Mr Iemma, however, said he believed Mr Tripodi was telling the truth.

"My gut is telling me, about Joe Tripodi, that he is telling the truth, but if he's not, then he's out," he said.

http://www.news.com....59211-2,00.html

[PZ.]

Powezone SydneySider you post all these articles each day, but don't even respond to them yourself. Are you being paid by Labor Liberal to post anti-Liberal Labor material or something?

If you're going to post all these articles at least post something constructive after them.

And while we're at it........why haven't you sold us the alternatives i.e. Liberal Party Policies???????????

Please explain to me how the Liberal Party are going to be so much better.

How are they going to fix NSW? What are their policies? Do they have any?

Please enlighten me..................

[SydneySider]

Please explain to me how the Liberal Party are going to be so much better.

How are they going to fix NSW? What are their policies? Do they have any?

Please enlighten me..................

I don't think you quite get it...ANYONE would be better than the Labor stooges currently in power. How are they going to fix NSW? They've been in power a decade and haven't fixed a damn thing (actually made it far worse).

What are their plans? How about a t-card system that takes years to implement, over time and over budget, and then SCRAPPED because it isn't going to work out? How about building hospitals that then need to be knocked down because sewage leaks into the rooms and the corridors are too small to transport patients? How about building private motorways that are a rip-off to use in the first place and closing PUBLIC roads to try and force the public into these private tunnels? What a disgrace that is!

[PZ.]

I don't think you quite get it...ANYONE would be better than the Labor stooges currently in power. How are they going to fix NSW? They've been in power a decade and haven't fixed a damn thing (actually made it far worse).

What are their plans? How about a t-card system that takes years to implement, over time and over budget, and then SCRAPPED because it isn't going to work out? How about building hospitals that then need to be knocked down because sewage leaks into the rooms and the corridors are too small to transport patients? How about building private motorways that are a rip-off to use in the first place and closing PUBLIC roads to try and force the public into these private tunnels? What a disgrace that is!

I don't think you quite get it....I didn't ask you what the LABOR policies were, I asked you what the LIBERAL policies are.

I agree with the 2nd part of your post, but you're not telling me anything I don't already know.
If you're asking me to vote out the Labor party at the next election then telling me what the Labor party is/is not doing is totally pointless.

You just said "ANYONE would be better than the Labor stooges currently in power", so qualify your bold statement.

Give me alternatives. Tell me their policies.