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[Cyril Washbrook]

1. 35% of Australians have BBC World already

About 35% of Australians have subscription television. Not all of those viewers have BBC World News (I'd probably say most don't have it, although I'm not privy to figures), and news cumulatively - including Sky News, the most popular of those options - makes up only about 3% of all subscription television viewing, which in turn makes up about 20% of all television viewing.

I think ABC News 24 will re air ABC1 and their own primetime programming

This is a safe assumption. We shouldn't have to speculate wildly, anyway, because the ABC was kind enough to tell us:

"ABC News 24 timeshifts existing news and current affairs programs, including The 7.30 Report, Four Corners, Foreign Correspondent, Lateline, Landline and Stateline from all states and territories. Federal Parliament’s Question Time and repeats of Catalyst, Compass and other documentary and factual programs are also broadcast on the channel."

[Mark]

About 35% of Australians have subscription television. Not all of those viewers have BBC World News (I'd probably say most don't have it, although I'm not privy to figures),

what makes you say that? It's on the basic tier, which means if you have Pay TV, you have BBC World.

[Cyril Washbrook]

what makes you say that? It's on the basic tier, which means if you have Pay TV, you have BBC World.

Okay, I stand corrected. Still, I don't think the fact that subscribers to pay TV have access to BBC World News is a barrier in itself, unless there were some nebulous legal issues.

[TGIF]

There are if you're Aljazeera English, but that's another story..

[TelevisionAU]

Okay, I stand corrected. Still, I don't think the fact that subscribers to pay TV have access to BBC World News is a barrier in itself, unless there were some nebulous legal issues.

I can't really see ABC handing over significant chunks of airtime (even overnights) to BBC World - but I suppose stranger things have happened

[dec220]

Assuming that the ABC1 7pm bulletin will receive new graphics and new music (not a new set though yet), which has been confirmed, does anyone know when the last bulletin featuring the current theme music and graphics package will air?

[Travis]

Does anyone have the manual frequency numbers for ABC News24? It appears on LCN 20,But whenever I try to do an automatic scan,my PVR Crashes at 30 %. So I want to manually scan in LCN 24 and then Delete the 20 channel

[KICK-IT]

BBC World News is one of BBC Australia's 4 channels, and it carries advertising.

BBC makes money from advertising carried on BBC World News.

BBC World News also sets these rates by ratings, and it it not going to:

1. Lose ratings by having potential viewers view BBC World News via FTA ans ABC News 24
2. Lose revenue by having ABC News 24 run an ad free version of BBC News

[TV_Expert]

Does anyone have the manual frequency numbers for ABC News24? It appears on LCN 20,But whenever I try to do an automatic scan,my PVR Crashes at 30 %. So I want to manually scan in LCN 24 and then Delete the 20 channel

Seeing that you're in Perth, ABC's Digital TV services (ABC1, ABC2, ABC3, ABC News 24) is on VHF-12.

[TGIF]

It's not actually unheard of for TV stations to relay BBC World, TV One in New Zealand does much the same sort of thing overnight and it would arguably impact on the pay-TV offering a lot more given that 60%+ of kiwis have pay TV. It's not so much whether they would be allowed to than whether they really want to.

There are plenty of channels they could choose to carry overnight - Deutsche Welle for one offers its programs to other networks for free - but I don't see why they wouldn't just go with 24-hour coverage from the get go.

[whophd]

It's based on the front cover of the ABC News 24 press kit which was released this afternoon:

Well that's quite funny to see, after reading what Jim Rudder (head of ABC's previous attempt at a news channel, 15 years ago) said:

"What we've made a conscious attempt to do here, and one thing you may notice which is very different from any other newsroom in the world, there is no blue on this set."

"So as I say, we've made a conscious effort to get away from that standard blue that you see in absolutely every single newsroom."

Haha!

CK.

Edited by whophd, 14 July 2010 - 12:10 PM.

[quaidy]

BBC World News is one of BBC Australia's 4 channels, and it carries advertising.

BBC makes money from advertising carried on BBC World News.

BBC World News also sets these rates by ratings, and it it not going to:

1. Lose ratings by having potential viewers view BBC World News via FTA ans ABC News 24
2. Lose revenue by having ABC News 24 run an ad free version of BBC News

One would presume that the ABC would pay some sort of licence/ broadcast fee. BBC World broadcast an add free version with promos/ news ticker where the ads go, and ads presumably are inserted locally.

[whophd]

One would presume that the ABC would pay some sort of licence/ broadcast fee. BBC World broadcast an add free version with promos/ news ticker where the ads go, and ads presumably are inserted locally.

The more interesting question is what happens if we get 9/11 or 7/7 all over again, and there's breaking news in the small hours.

I suspect they'd take a feed from BBC World News, a better choice than the alternatives. I mean, would they want to show raw video feed off the satellite? If so, are they going to have live commentary from Sydney? Don't think so. During the Iraq War blanket coverage in 2003, ABC1 overnight had (very tired) presenters give hourly headline updates, and then went "back to BBC World for continuing coverage".

They also kept playing Rage, on an unnamed, unbranded ABC2 service to keep the pill-poppers happy early Saturday / Sunday morning, but nobody told them where to look. Plus they didn't own a digibox back then.

CK.

[AdelaideTV]

The more interesting question is what happens if we get 9/11 or 7/7 all over again, and there's breaking news in the small hours.

I would hope that those terrible events never happen again

[NewsKing]

I think they should use the presenters we see regularly doing national updates in the overnight slots.

Scoot Bevan will probably stick around until 12am or 1am... It will just be very interesting to see what they do on the weekends, with all the promoted personalities taking up weekdays.

It'll also be interesting to see whether Lateline business on ABC1 will be a replay of the 8:30pm ABC News 24 edition... I hope not.

[djpower]

I can't really see ABC handing over significant chunks of airtime (even overnights) to BBC World - but I suppose stranger things have happened

I think it would be better for them to show BBC News 24 overnight, since it carries the same News 24 name and is also commercial free, I just don't know if the BBC would allow there News 24 channel to be shown outside of the UK as that is BBC World News territory

[Mike]

BBC doesn't use 'News24' branding on their domestic channel anymore, BBC World News doesn't use it either.

[SA TV]

Don't forget the ABC has all these young online presenters who do the News in 90 Seconds updates. There's also people like Nicole Chettle, Tracy Kirkland, Chris Clark, Paul Lockyer, Anita Savage and others who can present 'odd' shifts as needed.

[whophd]

Don't forget the ABC has all these young online presenters who do the News in 90 Seconds updates. There's also people like Nicole Chettle, Tracy Kirkland, Chris Clark, Paul Lockyer, Anita Savage and others who can present 'odd' shifts as needed.

Ah yairsssss, that was the grand plan for having them front up all those "Intern Headlines" on ABC2 for the last few years.

[Mark]

Anita Savage did the news update before Insiders the other day, nearly fell off the chair in shock, hadn't seen her since her 2UE days.