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[Lukemovieman]

Discuss 'Ten Griffith' (MTN-32, owned by WIN) here:

[Lukemovieman]

'Ten Griffith' is a regional television market in NSW airing TEN programming from TEN-10 (Sydney). It is a monoply market using the MTN (WIN Griffith) station to broadcast/transmit. Ten Griffith (MTN - LCN 32) is owned and used under license by the WIN (Corp.)

Edited by Lukemovieman, 03 March 2012 - 02:30 PM.

[Johnson28]

I cannot believe it took so long for Griffith to finally have its own Channel Ten affiliate. If I recall correctly, general Ten programming has never been shown in Griffith in some way, similar to Mildura here in Victoria, so the town's residents have been missing out on programs such as Neighbours, The Biggest Loser, MasterChef and The Simpsons. The only Ten programs which were carried on WIN were the AFL from 2002 to 2011.

[Smacca]

I cannot believe it took so long for Griffith to finally have its own Channel Ten affiliate. If I recall correctly, general Ten programming has never been shown in Griffith in some way, similar to Mildura here in Victoria, ...

Yeah, they never went full throttle with their dual affiliation, which I found odd. Probably a population versus cost thing? They still haven't launched the Prime7 multi-channels yet, either.

I imagine Ten Griffith would be the same as Ten Mildura and Ten West - just a straight dirty feed of the nearest metro Ten with local ads?

[Lukemovieman]

Yeah, they never went full throttle with their dual affiliation, which I found odd. Probably a population versus cost thing? They still haven't launched the Prime7 multi-channels yet, either.

I imagine Ten Griffith would be the same as Ten Mildura and Ten West - just a straight dirty feed of the nearest metro Ten with local ads?

It is the exact same format as 'Ten Mildura'. The market/sub-station launched around 2010. It is a digital channel controlled by WIN Griffith and affialiated to TEN-10 (Sydney). Finally, a TEN station that has no affiliation to Southern Cross Ten! However it might use some weekend morning/afternoon and weekday/weekend overnight programs occasionally.

[newtaste]

Griffith, Hay and Cobar missed out big time by being overlooked when aggregation happened. It's about time they got what they should have had 23 years ago.

[Squee!]

The latter two ended up with remote services rather then Regional NSW services mind you, odd choices considering the population size.

[southeastsa]

It is the exact same format as 'Ten Mildura'. The market/sub-station launched around 2010. It is a digital channel controlled by WIN Griffith and affialiated to TEN-10 (Sydney). Finally, a TEN station that has no affiliation to Southern Cross Ten! However it might use some weekend morning/afternoon and weekday/weekend overnight programs occasionally.

Ten, as broadcast by WIN in SA has no affiliation with SC10.

[Lukemovieman]

Ten, as broadcast by WIN in SA has no affiliation with SC10.

Yes, you are right. I change what I said, Ten Griffith has no affiliation to SC10. However, sometimes there are still mistake ads/promos with the SC10 logo in it.

[Squee!]

Considering its processed by Mediahub much like WIN Ten and has absolutely nothing to do with Southern Cross, that is absolute nonsense.

[Lukemovieman]

Considering its processed by Mediahub much like WIN Ten and has absolutely nothing to do with Southern Cross, that is absolute nonsense.

Please explain?........

[Squee!]

WIN owns and controls all stations (including the Prime rebroadcast) in Griffith.
As they already control feeds of other Ten stations (WIN Ten in SE SA, which has ran for years, pretty much Ten Griffith would be a dirty feed of TEN10 Sydney with local ads), it has absolutely nothing to do with Southern Cross.
Therefore their would be much chance of seeing ads from SC10 on Ten Griffith as their would be on any of the capital city Ten stations... i.e, zero.

[Lukemovieman]

TEN Griffith is a Feed from TEN-10, TEN Mildura is a Feed from ATV-10 & TEN SA / WIN TEN is a Feed from ADS-10; however all three are actually regional Simulcasts from SC10 in Canberra, Ballarat & Port Augusta *respectively* with local advertisements put in place for each area (Griffith, Mildura & Riverland/Mount Gambier) with the occasional mistake SC10 Ad or promos. SC10 Local News updates are cut out from the feeds and are re-initiated with the State Feed 'TEN News At Five - Updates.'

[southeastsa]

No they're not - at least in SA anyway.

In the almost 9 years WIN has broadcast a Network Ten service in regional SA, I have never seen any Southern Cross branding slipping through. It has always been a dirty feed of ADS 10, with some very rare local variation due to sport.

There is no way SC branding could find it's way onto a WIN owned station because Mediahub doesn't take any SC feeds or uses SC branding on any of it's stations.

That said, there was once a Prime bumper on WIN Ten a few years ago - but that was because WIN brand one of their Griffith services as Prime. Do they still do this, or have they reverted to 7 branding in line with SA?

[AdelaideIsSeven]

TEN Griffith is a Feed from TEN-10, TEN Mildura is a Feed from ATV-10 & TEN SA / WIN TEN is a Feed from ADS-10; however all three are actually regional Simulcasts from SC10 in Canberra, Ballarat & Port Augusta *respectively* with local advertisements put in place for each area (Griffith, Mildura & Riverland/Mount Gambier) with the occasional mistake SC10 Ad or promos. SC10 Local News updates are cut out from the feeds and are re-initiated with the State Feed 'TEN News At Five - Updates.'

If that is the case, why is WIN TEN in SA carrying The Bolt Report at 10am CST/10.30am EST on Sundays instead of SC's "Hot 30 TV" and WIN Eleven carrying The Loop on Saturday mornings instead of "Country TV" (country music video show) on SC Eleven? Also does WIN have some kind of arrangement with SC to use their Ten feeds?

Does WIN TEN/Eleven/One Griffith and Mildura carry Hot 30 Countdown, Country TV, afternoon infomercials, TheHitRater.com, Poker Showdown or any other SC-produced programming? Seeing though Griffith, Mildura and Mount Gambier are served by AM/FM local commercial stations owned by SCAustereo, namely 2RG, Sun FM and 5SE respectively, plus Star FM is present in all these markets.

And another thing does the Seven station in Griffith still use the "Prime7" branding? If so, what's the point when WIN SA's Seven-affiliated main channels (SES/RTS) are branded as just "Seven" and Prime does not own or part-own the licenses for Griffith. As I said before it would be easier and more cost-efficient if they used the same Seven feed (apart from when SAS-7 has its own news and Port Adelaide/Adelaide Crows AFL matches when HSV-7 airs a different Melbourne AFL game) and delay it half an hour for SA? The Prime7 branding for Griffith was a legacy from when their radio station 2RG owned MTN-9 and AMN-31 in the late 90s, and before 1989 when MTN was part of the Midstate Television network with CBN-8.

The situation where WIN takes Southern Cross feeds reminded me of around the early 80s when I used to watch Hey Hey it's Saturday (when it was a morning programme) via GMV-6 Shepparton (now WIN Shepparton), sometimes I see the Southern Cross TV8 logo at the end of a commercial break or the first few seconds of a Bendigo commercial, or the TV8 PRG. Which indicates that GMV are re-transmitting this programme via BCV (which had sort of a "sister station" relationship with GMV despite different ownership and branding, BCV, BTV and GMV screened almost half its programming simultaneously at the time, usually news and live events but other shows such as for example Dallas and M*A*S*H were screened simultaneous).

[Squee!]

Cause the guy is talking shit and he has no idea what he is on about, or misquoting something (probably Wikipedia).
They're all direct feeds of each Capital Cities Ten feed from Mediahub - SCA has no role in providing these feeds to WIN.

I'm guessing its still Prime7 in Griffith for legacy reasons when the station was first set-up, and is just the feed that WIN grab for viewers rather then grabbing a feed direct from ATN.

[Moe]

The Seven service is just plain Seven now as well from a multiplex listing I found.

This thread on some of the teething problems of the digital service in Griffith is interesting - digital was just the analogue channel broadcast in SD digital for a long while. http://www.dtvforum....opic=24709&st=0

[Lukemovieman]

Cause the guy is talking shit and he has no idea what he is on about, or misquoting something (probably Wikipedia).
They're all direct feeds of each Capital Cities Ten feed from Mediahub - SCA has no role in providing these feeds to WIN.

I'm guessing its still Prime7 in Griffith for legacy reasons when the station was first set-up, and is just the feed that WIN grab for viewers rather then grabbing a feed direct from ATN.

Alright, fair go! I see what you are all saying and you are most likely 100% correct! However, all this came about when I went to the WIN TEN (sub-station) Market office in Mt. Gambier when I was visiting family mid-last year and I was talking to them and a staff member (Associate Producer & Line Producer) from their 'local production line unit' said that a relay or simulcast of the SC10 Port Agusta (in SA) is received there due to local advertisements set out for them by the ACMA; like I mentioned some or a majority of SC10 national-local programming is cut out so as you are saying ADS-10 still provide the official feed for WIN TEN with normal news, weekend programming and overnight programming NOT CHANGED like SC10!
>BTW "Squee"... Fourm Moderator - Site Staff, [ not trying to patronize you ], don't you start to say I am making this up at all... a WIN Television producer for WIN TEN confirmed it for me and even showed my a local TV transmission map for broadcasting/relays in the Mt. Gambier/Riverland region! Ha, e-Mail them if you want, but then again that would be up to you - being evasive and abrupt

<<<<<<<<HOPEFULLY THIS SUMS UP THE SUB-TOPIC OR (AS THEY SAY), WE WILL JUST HAVE TO AGREE TO DISAGREE... MR. OBNOXIOUS>>>>>>>>

[southeastsa]

Southern Cross don't even have a Port Augusta service ...

They have a Port Pirie service, but even that comes from Canberra (in the same way that all WIN services come from Mediahub).

And WIN Ten have no office or staff. It isn't even branded as WIN Ten anymore. The handful of staff that work at the Mount Gambier office work for WIN Television / WIN Network.

ACMA have nothing to do with this at all - a Port Pirie feed is no more local than an Adelaide feed.

And why would WIN - who are renowned for being cheap - go to the effort of removing all traces of SC branding from a feed and replace it with ADS 10 content when they could have taken the ADS feed in the first place.

And as I said before - I have seen no SC branding slip through in 9 years - if the feed was set up as you say, some mistakes inevitably would have happened over the years.

I have visited areas in the Riverland that pick up both Ten through WIN and ADS which makes it easy to compare - it is exactly the same apart from local ads - even the promos shown on ADS at the beginning and end of the ad break are straight down the line from ADS - you can see the feed switch.

I'm sure your posting this information in good faith, but please check your facts before posting. If it was you that changed the Ten SA Wikipedia page to make the Southern Cross reference, please back up your claims - because with all due respect they are absurd.

[Lukemovieman]

Please be advised that this is a Thread for TEN Griffith only; discussions relating to WIN TEN / TEN SA can be found in the WIN Television thread or you can create a 'TEN SA' thread.

Anyway, finally summing this sub-topic up in the TEN Griffith thread, I actually meant Spencer Gulf (not port Augusta) and as you said Port Piere also have a SC10 transmission. WIN TEN have an office located in the WIN Television - Mount Gambier (or) Riverland Market Office(s); with WIN TEN (TEN SA) being a digital monopoly in Griffith owned and operated by WIN. Spencer Gulf / Port Piere are localised localised transmission simulcasts of the ADS-10 feed due to local content requirements as set out by the ACMA. WIN TEN is still a simulcast of SC10 Adelaide with an in-direct feed from ADS-10 due to local content etc... (no local news however) and the station IS supervised by WIN and controlled by the TEN SA unit in conjunction with SC10. Confirmed by a Line Producer from WIN TEN in Mt. Gambier and this IS ending this topic.
>Please don't think I am coming across as obnoxious or abrupt; I am simply trying to simplify things (as I believe and KNOW it is - however my opinion of course) and wrap-up this sub-topic due to being in a non-relevant thread!

Lukemovieman