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OFFLINE   Mr. J #21

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:51 AM

Seven is the oldest network. We all know that.

The oldest network that is way ahead of all the others in younger demos.

OFFLINE   KICK-IT #22

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:54 AM

This is the first week The Block is going head to head with Masterchef...


Yes, and so far viewers are choosing Block over MC.

here are the figures for Monday and Tuesday of the fourth week of The Block last year compared to this year:


As I said, Block doing more or less what it did last year. Down About 100k-150k. Or 10% at most.

Where as year on year MC has dropped from 1,656,000 to under a million Monday and from 1,593,000 last year to 1,078,000 last night. Down at least 40%

OFFLINE   KICK-IT #23

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:56 AM

The oldest network that is way ahead of all the others in younger demos.


Season to date yes. Let's wait til end of season Voice, Celeb Apprentice, Big Brother, Block , X Factor, The Shire and Masterchef have all finished.

OFFLINE   underarm #24

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:14 AM

Last week up against 2.4 million watching The Voice, Rafters did 1,118,000 total people. This week with Voice out of the way it rose a small 60,000 viewers, or 5%.

This show used to get 2 million.

Is it safe to say Rafters is dead?


What a silly comment. And from some-one who tries to tell us that 600k for the Project is a good number.

OFFLINE   J Bar #25

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:20 AM

True. There have been a few silly comments here today from people declaring shows as "dead". An Aussie drama like Packed to the Rafters that does 1.2m and a sitcom like The Big Bang Theory that does 1.1m against huge competition of a real;ity show finale, are far from dead.

If these shows are dead then what about Offspring and New Girl who do half those ratings yet remain on air?
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OFFLINE   icat #26

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

There's no Seven show on top 5 key demos...

Seven is Nannaville.

True. There have been a few silly comments here today from people declaring shows as "dead". An Aussie drama like Packed to the Rafters that does 1.2m and a sitcom like The Big Bang Theory that does 1.1m against huge competition of a real;ity show finale, are far from dead.

If these shows are dead then what about Offspring and New Girl who do half those ratings yet remain on air?

However, Australian drama is expensive to produce and I believe from lengthy conversations back a couple of years ago that 1.2 million is needed just to make ends meat.

Edited by icat, 09 May 2012 - 10:25 AM.

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OFFLINE   TV Cynic #27

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

Week to date now available - Nine (9+90+99) about 5 ahead.

OFFLINE   icat #28

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

The oldest network that is way ahead of all the others in younger demos.

Is this correct? I thought Seven struggled in the younger demos.
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OFFLINE   KICK-IT #29

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:30 AM

Is it safe to say Rafters is dead?



What a silly comment. And from some-one who tries to tell us that 600k for the Project is a good number.


Well Project has not lost half of it's audience! Nor is Project a scripted drama costing upwards up 750k an hour.

Also Project at 6.30 is pretty competitive in 18-49 for Ten. It does around 350k while TT and ACA do around 400k.

Edited by KICK-IT, 09 May 2012 - 10:31 AM.


OFFLINE   underarm #30

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:30 AM


However, Australian drama is expensive to produce and I believe from lengthy conversations back a couple of years ago that 1.2 million is needed just to make ends meat.


That was a few years ago. Now the agreed figure seems to be about 1 mill. PTTR is still the only Aussie drama that hits that target regularly.

OFFLINE   InTheWild #31

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:31 AM

Is this correct? I thought Seven struggled in the younger demos.


Traditionally yes but in the kast few years that has been a common misconception. So far this year they have smashed them. Even last year they were very strong if not winning some of the demos (I can't be bothered looking it up). Unless Seven pick up some steam in the demos with shows such as X Factor, Beauty and the Geek, Once upon a time etc then it will be a close race this year.

Edited by InTheWild, 09 May 2012 - 10:31 AM.


OFFLINE   underarm #32

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:32 AM


Well Project has not lost half of it's audience!

Also Project at 6.30 is pretty competitive in 18-49 for Ten. It does around 350k while TT and ACA do around 400k.


All true. But still a silly comment. Rafters can afford to lose half its audience and still have double the audience of the Project.

OFFLINE   KICK-IT #33

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:33 AM

Is this correct? I thought Seven struggled in the younger demos.


Yes it's correct. Seven is the oldest network (it's median age is the oldest of the three and it has the largest amount of over 55s) but also season to date Seven is #1 in 16-39, 18-49 and 25-54.

OFFLINE   J Bar #34

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:33 AM

However, Australian drama is expensive to produce and I believe from lengthy conversations back a couple of years ago that 1.2 million is needed just to make ends meat.

It wasn't so much a case of making ends meet but justifying whether a show should be axed and time to create a new show that could potentially grab higher ratings. However, that was in the days when All Saints was axed to produce a new drama which turned out to be Winners and Losers.

It should be noted that the landscape has changed dramatically since then, with digital channels shrinking audiences on teh main channel. Apart from Packed to the Rafters, Winners & Losers, Underbelly and until recently Offspring there haven't been many Aussie dramas that regularly even crack the million mark these days.

Edited by J Bar, 09 May 2012 - 10:33 AM.

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OFFLINE   KICK-IT #35

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:35 AM

Rafters can afford to lose half its audience


I'm not sure it can. If it falls another 150,000 I'd say it's not a certain pick up for another season.

OFFLINE   Ekane #36

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:39 AM




Well Project has not lost half of it's audience! Nor is Project a scripted drama costing upwards up 750k an hour.

Also Project at 6.30 is pretty competitive in 18-49 for Ten. It does around 350k while TT and ACA do around 400k.


And packed to the rafters has? Are you talking about some peak episodes or a season as a whole.
Because if it's peak episodes then the project has lost more than half of its audience.
Either way the Ten Network is looking up at 6.30 with neighbours and project back to getting what it was doing last year with negus and neighbours almost.

OFFLINE   J Bar #37

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:43 AM

Either way the Ten Network is looking up at 6.30 with neighbours and project back to getting what it was doing last year with negus and neighbours almost.

Neighbours has a new producer and his episodes have started screening now, which could explain a boost to ratings this week.
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OFFLINE   ryaneco #38

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:43 AM

This is a stupid conversation. Rafters is still rating well - it is in no danger - the only danger it is in is if Seven decide to end on a high rather than drag it out until it is rating 700k - IMO They'd be better ending on a high - the loss of several key core cast members will have an impact especially once Ben departs that leaves Nathan the only older Rafter sibiling - and the least interesting one....

OFFLINE   Chris #39

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:46 AM

An unusually low rating Tuesday. Even though Biggest Loser was #1, that is an average result for the finale and would have to be the franchises weakest? I really don't know how anyone can sit through 1 hour and 45 mins of just the eliminated contestants weighing in. I only turned on in the last 20 or so minutes.

Well it looks like The Voice worked in damaging Rafters. I still think that over the coming weeks, the audience will still slowly build back. No need to worry just because 1 or 2 episodes have rated lower than usual. 3 weeks ago it was still above 1.5 mill.

Masterchef is doing well IMO. It's already outperforming what The Biggest Loser is doing and we don't even have a top 24 yet. Obviously it's highly unlikely this season will outperform it's previous seasons, but given the state that Ten is in at the moment having it back must be a big sigh of relief for them.

Edited by Chris, 09 May 2012 - 10:48 AM.


OFFLINE   underarm #40

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:50 AM


I'm not sure it can. If it falls another 150,000 I'd say it's not a certain pick up for another season.


Why did you quote me out of context? I didn't say that Rafters could afford to lose half its audience. I said it could afford to lose half its audience & still be double the audience of the Project.