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OFFLINE   SydneySider #1

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 03:21 PM

So how many people here have cars and drive frequently...whether it be to school, work or wherever you go biggrin.gif

I've recently discovered a great feature on the RTA website in NSW. It has up-to-the minute traffic reports for every area in NSW. If ANY traffic incident, whether minor or major has occured in NSW, it's immediately reported on the RTA website so you can work out if you may need to take a detour to avoid the area! It's fantastic in my opinion. It also has snaps taken from cameras across areas of Sydney such as the motorways, freeways and bridges.

Here's the exact link for those interested... http://www.rta.nsw.g...orts/index.html

It's great in my opinion...does any other state have this?

I've also noticed that Nova get all their traffic info from this website...their traffic reports sound exactly the same as what is said on the RTA website (and it's done by the newsreader...not in the chopper).

OFFLINE   Gilbo #2

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 05:15 PM

VicRoads have the same on their website, but its only updated every 10 minutes and is nowhere near as comprehensive. The RTA one's is very detailed, VicRoads aren't good at producing information for the web... frown.gif

OFFLINE   Sharpy #3

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 05:54 PM

QUOTE (Gilbo @ Jul 30 2005, 05:15 PM)
VicRoads have the same on their website, but its only updated every 10 minutes and is nowhere near as comprehensive. The RTA one's is very detailed, VicRoads aren't good at producing information for the web... frown.gif

Qld Transport don't really have much like that - and the ones they do have are not the best anyway. The whole road system in Bris literally collapses if there is an accident or breakdown. The Ipswich motorway is the worst, bu if there is an accident you will know about it even if you are just leaving the city and it is still an hour away silly.gif

OFFLINE   Super Simpsons #4

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 06:17 PM

QUOTE (Sharpy @ Jul 30 2005, 05:54 PM)
Qld Transport don't really have much like that - and the ones they do have are not the best anyway. The whole road system in Bris literally collapses if there is an accident or breakdown. The Ipswich motorway is the worst, bu if there is an accident you will know about it even if you are just leaving the city and it is still an hour away silly.gif

In Sydney, it's the same, an accident causes absolute mayhem and the road network collapses, but as SydneySider reported, the RTA do a good job in reporting the accident and location. Two bad when you're in the car or bus, you can't access their site. smirk.gif

OFFLINE   Sharpy #5

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 06:20 PM

I know 97.3FM mostly rely on motorists to report accidents and where they are etc, but i can't remember which station it is that uses "Rebecca from the Brisbane City Council Traffic Management centre".

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 06:45 PM

QUOTE (supersimpsons @ Jul 30 2005, 04:17 PM)
In Sydney, it's the same, an accident causes absolute mayhem and the road network collapses

You wouldn't be exagerrating just a little would you? yes.gif

OFFLINE   Super Simpsons #7

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 07:25 PM

QUOTE (NewsWorld @ Jul 30 2005, 06:45 PM)
You wouldn't be exagerrating just a little would you?  yes.gif

Well, the whole network doesn't collapse obviously, but the area around the accident within an extensive radius gets gridlocked and even after the accident is cleared, it takes a while for things to get flowing.

OFFLINE   SydneySider #8

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 07:32 PM

QUOTE (supersimpsons @ Jul 30 2005, 06:17 PM)
In Sydney, it's the same, an accident causes absolute mayhem and the road network collapses

Uhhhhh what are you talking about? It would affect close surrounding areas, but the whole network collapsing??? eyepopping.gif

OFFLINE   Super Simpsons #9

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 08:49 PM

QUOTE (SydneySider @ Jul 30 2005, 07:32 PM)
Uhhhhh what are you talking about? It would affect close surrounding areas, but the whole network collapsing???  eyepopping.gif

See my post above your one. cheerful.gif

OFFLINE   NewsWorld #10

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 08:54 PM

QUOTE (supersimpsons @ Jul 30 2005, 05:25 PM)
Well, the whole network doesn't collapse obviously, but the area around the accident within an extensive radius gets gridlocked and even after the accident is cleared, it takes a while for things to get flowing.

Well I still think you're overselling it.. I lived in and reported on Sydney for many years and "gridlock" was extremely rare.
Heavy traffic; no arguement... but not gridlock.
And in my experience accidents only affect the immediate area.. not an "extensive radius"

OFFLINE   Sharpy #11

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 08:59 PM

QUOTE (NewsWorld @ Jul 30 2005, 08:54 PM)
Well I still think you're overselling it.. I lived in and reported on Sydney for many years and "gridlock" was extremely rare.
Heavy traffic; no arguement... but not gridlock.
And in my experience accidents only affect the immediate area.. not an "extensive radius"

Lucky you. If there is an accident on the Ipswich Motorway heading out of Bris, you won't be going anywhere, no matter where abouts on the road you are.

OFFLINE   Super Simpsons #12

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 09:19 PM

QUOTE (NewsWorld @ Jul 30 2005, 08:54 PM)
Well I still think you're overselling it.. I lived in and reported on Sydney for many years and "gridlock" was extremely rare.
Heavy traffic; no arguement... but not gridlock.
And in my experience accidents only affect the immediate area.. not an "extensive radius"

Sorry, but I do think you're underestimating the road problems in Sydney. But we can agree to disagree. wink.gif

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 09:21 PM

I currently drive to uni - its good in the mornings and off peak, unfortunately this semester I finish at 6pm, so cop peak hour traffic on the Eastern.

Springvale Road is a pain in the arse - thank god I dont use it.
I really cant wait for the Tollway to be built from Mitcham to Frankston. I dont care if it does have tolls - GOOD decision in my eyes smile.gif

OFFLINE   Jac2287 #14

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 09:40 PM

QUOTE (MelbourneTV @ Jul 30 2005, 09:21 PM)
Springvale Road is a pain in the arse - thank god I dont use it.
I really cant wait for the Tollway to be built from Mitcham to Frankston. I dont care if it does have tolls - GOOD decision in my eyes smile.gif

I unfortunately have to use Springvale Road no.gif As for the Mitcham to Frankston it doesn't really bother me, but I can't wait till it's finished I have to go past it pretty much everyday to go to Tafe and it looks horrible frown.gif

OFFLINE   MelbourneTV #15

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 09:44 PM

The sooner it gets done the better. Im so sick of the whinging. Bracks lied about the tolls, but atleast the thing is finally getting done.
I recently went to Portsea for a weekend, and had to drive some friends from Templestowe down - We left the final port of call at 4pm and arrived at 7:30.
We did go to the booze shop on the way, but got caught on Springvale Road, plus on the Monash pretty much from the word go.
Then my "navigator" got us lost. Hoorah!

People dont realise, that when the tollway is done, it'll probably turn out cheaper for them.
They'll pay tolls, but they'll also save time, and probably money in petrol as for the short term, the stop starting will be reduced.
Meh - then they'll realise the road is congested again, and want improvements... but at the end of the day, freeways dont solve congestion.

OFFLINE   SydneySider #16

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 11:25 PM

QUOTE (supersimpsons @ Jul 30 2005, 09:19 PM)
Sorry, but I do think you're underestimating the road problems in Sydney. But we can agree to disagree. wink.gif

Give me some examples supersimpsons - because, quite frankly, you seem to have no idea what you're talking about? Do you even use use any of Sydney's major motorways/highways etc? :sarcastic:

As Newsworld said...heavy traffic yes...but not total gridlock! And how it effects the whole traffic network I have no idea eyepopping.gif

OFFLINE   Super Simpsons #17

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Posted 30 July 2005 - 11:47 PM

QUOTE (SydneySider @ Jul 30 2005, 11:25 PM)
Give me some examples supersimpsons - because, quite frankly, you seem to have no idea what you're talking about? Do you even use use any of Sydney's major motorways/highways etc?  :sarcastic:

As Newsworld said...heavy traffic yes...but not total gridlock! And how it effects the whole traffic network I have no idea  eyepopping.gif

Okay, an accident on any motorway, especially the M4 and M5 will clog it, that's what I'm saying. When there are no accidents, the traffic flows rather well for peak hour, but when there is an accident, the road affected gets congested and the surrounding streets also are affected. Also, other incidents such as fallen power lines which block off roads can not only create more concentrated traffic, but it also hurts the bus routes which run along that road. I'm sorry if my views seem overly pessimistic, but some sections of Sydney's traffic can become 'gridlocked' after an accident. I will not say another word in this thread.

OFFLINE   SydneySider #18

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 09:47 AM

QUOTE (supersimpsons @ Jul 30 2005, 11:47 PM)
Okay, an accident on any motorway, especially the M4 and M5 will clog it, that's what I'm saying. When there are no accidents, the traffic flows rather well for peak hour, but when there is an accident, the road affected gets congested and the surrounding streets also are affected.

Well that's fair enough then - I just didn't agree when you said the whole network falls down when there's an accident. Of course the surrounding streets would be affected.

Totally unrelated to your post now, I'm interested to know what major highways/motorways everyone on here use and how congested they get during peak hour? I use quite a bit the warringah freeway, pacific highway, F3 freeway quite a bit. The Warringah freeway doesn't usually get overly congested if you're heading north, but if you're heading south during peak hour it's very congested due to the tolls (I think all tolls should be E-Way). Pacific Highway during peak hour - forget that! The F3 freeway is usually pretty good during peak hour. As supersimpsons said, a lot of the motorways like the M4 and M5 get extremely congested during peak hour.

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 11:46 AM

QUOTE (SydneySider @ Jul 31 2005, 10:47 AM)
Well that's fair enough then - I just didn't agree when you said the whole network falls down when there's an accident. Of course the surrounding streets would be affected.

Totally unrelated to your post now, I'm interested to know what major highways/motorways everyone on here use and how congested they get during peak hour? I use quite a bit the warringah freeway, pacific highway, F3 freeway quite a bit. The Warringah freeway doesn't usually get overly congested if you're heading north, but if you're heading south during peak hour it's very congested due to the tolls (I think all tolls should be E-Way). Pacific Highway during peak hour - forget that! The F3 freeway is usually pretty good during peak hour. As supersimpsons said, a lot of the motorways like the M4 and M5 get extremely congested during peak hour.


When I used to travel to the city from the Hills area, if there is an accident or heavy traffic around Pennant Hills, which leads onto the M2 there IS a gridlock from Thompsons corner including New Line Road which backs up all the way to Cherrybrook.

When its raining and heavy traffic or an accident occurs on the M2 motorway, this also james the traffic to an almost standstill. There has been instances where I have sat at lights on the highway leading onto the motorway and they have changed 2-3 times without me moving.

So it does happen, just maybe not everywhere. Parramatta Rd, is another problem.

OFFLINE   Sharpy #20

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Posted 31 July 2005 - 11:51 AM

QUOTE (sarp @ Jul 31 2005, 11:46 AM)
There has been instances where I have sat at lights on the highway leading onto the motorway and they have changed 2-3 times without me moving.

That happens every single day in Peak Hour at the intersection of Logan and Kessels Road. And there doesnt even have to be a accident. Most times the bus sits there and the lights change like 5 times even before the actual bus has moved up....... total chaos