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For fuck sake dot, you really think you're all mighty since you work at a little TV station?
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that bar is necessary. It's not. Why is it there? Win don't want us to see who's being interviewed, or are they afraid of some 1900 numbers flashing up?
It's a completely unnecessary graphic, which should just be a win logo over the Nine watermark, and the time underneath.
Watermark Me! Watermarks, watermarks, watermarks
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 01:57 AM
Morning fellows - didn't know there was so many other insomniacs!
For a start I don't work for a "little TV station", did years ago & keep company with many who still are.
My point was that it's just a bar for christ's sake.
Maybe it's a nuisance, but "crime against humanity" it certainly ain't!
Not quite sure what you mean about the dogs, but neither run Astons.
FYI, TCN's on-air CG is actually a Chyron Lex (Duet) uploaded from VizRT while I think WIN are running Clarities.
You have me intrigued enough to try & find out Monday why they do it, but I reiterate, it's just a super bar.
QUOTE (Pun @ Apr 15 2007, 01:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
For fuck sake dot, you really think you're all mighty since you work at a little TV station?
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that bar is necessary. It's not. Why is it there? Win don't want us to see who's being interviewed, or are they afraid of some 1900 numbers flashing up?
It's a completely unnecessary graphic, which should just be a win logo over the Nine watermark, and the time underneath.
I don't think anyone in their right mind would say that bar is necessary. It's not. Why is it there? Win don't want us to see who's being interviewed, or are they afraid of some 1900 numbers flashing up?
It's a completely unnecessary graphic, which should just be a win logo over the Nine watermark, and the time underneath.
For a start I don't work for a "little TV station", did years ago & keep company with many who still are.
My point was that it's just a bar for christ's sake.
Maybe it's a nuisance, but "crime against humanity" it certainly ain't!
QUOTE (Andy B @ Apr 15 2007, 01:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The thing is dot-hey-you, I have NEVER heard station covering a bar before in my life. DOGs, yes but never astons!
Not quite sure what you mean about the dogs, but neither run Astons.
FYI, TCN's on-air CG is actually a Chyron Lex (Duet) uploaded from VizRT while I think WIN are running Clarities.
You have me intrigued enough to try & find out Monday why they do it, but I reiterate, it's just a super bar.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:34 AM
QUOTE (dot-hey-you @ Apr 15 2007, 01:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
"crime against humanity" it certainly ain't!
I was simply being a drama queen (I'm good at it
). I'm sorry that you didn't notice that.
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 10:46 AM
QUOTE (Damien G @ Apr 15 2007, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was simply being a drama queen (I'm good at it ). I'm sorry that you didn't notice that.
). I'm sorry that you didn't notice that.Hey I knew you were just being melodramatic
, but even so, it's still just a bar across the screen & not worth losing sleep over.Discuss - Yes please
Moan, groan, whinge, be melodramatic - Not worth it guys (ie: be happy)
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 08:10 PM
Well I don't see why they have the bar and I quite frankly don't like it one bit. I like to see who there interviewing and what's going on. Why should I be disadvatntaged just because I'm watching WIN?
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Posted 15 April 2007 - 09:27 PM
QUOTE (dot-hey-you @ Apr 15 2007, 10:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Moan, groan, whinge, be melodramatic - Not worth it guys (ie: be happy)
Don't worry, I'm happy now ....
Still not liking that bar though, Win!
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Posted 16 April 2007 - 06:52 PM
On WIN HD this morning, don;t know about SD, they forgot to put the bar back up during the last segment of TODAY. I was so happy, such a proud moment.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 11:01 AM
QUOTE (ATNI @ Apr 16 2007, 06:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
On WIN HD this morning, don;t know about SD, they forgot to put the bar back up during the last segment of TODAY. I was so happy, such a proud moment.
Enjoy it, this is what WIN will come to next...
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 11:47 AM
QUOTE (TimGraham @ Apr 14 2007, 05:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Are you talking about on Today or others - while I was on holidays I did notice WIN's general fondness for solid watermarks..
right on, why does win feel the need to use these stupid things.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 04:02 PM
im dreading the day when southern cross ten in victoria put their logo over channel 10....i would die coz it's hideous!
for those of you who dont know what it looks like...its this ugly thing
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for those of you who dont know what it looks like...its this ugly thing
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 04:54 PM
QUOTE (17braden @ Apr 17 2007, 11:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
right on, why does win feel the need to use these stupid things.
Because Nine won't give them a clean feed, when WIN get clean feeds they don't use solid watermarks, they have transparent ones, when they don't have a clean feed they cover the nine logo with theirs. If you buy a Holden Astra you don't get Opel badges on the car, you get Holden ones, the same principle applies here. WIN may not produce Today, but they pay to show it on their network, so they should be free to brand it as such. I don't see why the whole bar needs covered, but I have no problems with WIN covering Nine logos, likewise with NBN.
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 05:23 PM
QUOTE (i_luv_delta3 @ Apr 17 2007, 03:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
im dreading the day when southern cross ten in victoria put their logo over channel 10....i would die coz it's hideous!
for those of you who dont know what it looks like...its this ugly thing
for those of you who dont know what it looks like...its this ugly thing
It's not that bad, I wonder if it would look like this in watermark form:
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 06:08 PM
QUOTE (Big Dude 101 @ Apr 17 2007, 11:01 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Enjoy it, this is what WIN will come to next...
I'm still waiting for the day then they over dub the word Nine and replace it with a "WIN Television" Voiceover during live calls and ads for Footy etc when Channel Nine gets mentioned
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:13 PM
QUOTE (chicki @ Apr 17 2007, 04:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Because Nine won't give them a clean feed, when WIN get clean feeds they don't use solid watermarks, they have transparent ones, when they don't have a clean feed they cover the nine logo with theirs. If you buy a Holden Astra you don't get Opel badges on the car, you get Holden ones, the same principle applies here. WIN may not produce Today, but they pay to show it on their network, so they should be free to brand it as such. I don't see why the whole bar needs covered, but I have no problems with WIN covering Nine logos, likewise with NBN.
Well said chicki.............
I wish I had a dollar for everytime someone has questioned why the regional stations try & cover the metro station logos.
If it's not here, it's over in the DTV Forum, if it's not there it's on Austech & around it goes......
Doesn't EVERY business have the right to brand their product how they see fit?
Consider if you owned a TV Station & were paying another TV station $100 million a year for a feed of programmes. Why should you then be expected to have to also take that other station's identification branding? You're paying for the programmes only, not advertising another business !
Whether it be Coca Cola, Buttercup or GMH, all businesses brand their products how they want. We consumers then buy these products & then have the priviledge, in the case of say GMH, to then drive around giving them free advertisiing for the life of the product !
On the other hand, we viewers don't pay for FTA TV, but feel we every right to complain, nay demand, that there be no branding allowed on this particular business.
That makes sense !
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Posted 17 April 2007 - 08:15 PM
QUOTE (SunriseFan @ Apr 17 2007, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
WIN could easy fix up today, by losing the bar. Here`s what I would do:
I would have a Solid WIN NEWS watermark over the top of the nine one, with the clock on top of it and the today logo below it.
I would have a Solid WIN NEWS watermark over the top of the nine one, with the clock on top of it and the today logo below it.
That's assuming they are just trying to cover the "9".
